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John Davies Williams (Taid)

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Parents

Father

Captain Owen Williams (I32)

Mother

Elizabeth Davies (I506)

Siblings

Sister

Annie Elizabeth Williams (I507) + Edward Owen Jones (I1310)

Sister

Mary Williams (I508) + John Evans (I520)

Sister

Margaretta Williams (I509) + John Rees (I541)

Sister

Elizabeth Williams (I510) + Richard Edward Barnes (I542)

Brother

Owen Williams (I511)

Brother

Captain David John Williams (I512) + Mary Thomas (I543)

Sister

Susannah Williams (I1325) + Henry Robert Shortland (I1326)

Sister

Jane Ellen Williams (I514)

Brother

Thomas Owen Williams (I515)

Personal Facts and Details

Name

John Davies Williams (I30)
Also recorded as Johnny Corbett.

Birth

5 February 1881
Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales

Source: Birth Certificate for John Davies WILLIAMS

Citation Details: Birth Certificate for John Davies WILLIAMS
Quality of Data 3. Almost certain conclusion

Registration

between 1 January 1881 and 31 March 1881 Birth
Machynlleth, Montgomeryshire, Wales

Source: Registration of Births

Citation Details: Mar 1881, Machynlleth, Montgomeryshire, Volume 11b, Page 158
Quality of Data 4. Convincing evidence

Registration

March 1908 Marriage
Toxteth Park, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Source: Registration of Marriages

Citation Details: Mar 1908, Toxteth Park, Lancashire, Volume 8b, Page 264
Source Text: John Davies WILLIAMS + Annie JONES
Quality of Data 4. Convincing evidence

Marriage

31 March 1908
Register Office, Toxteth Park, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Source: Marriage Certificate for John Davies WILLIAMS and Annie JONES

Citation Details: Marriage Certificate for John Davies WILLIAMS and Annie JONES
Quality of Data 3. Almost certain conclusion

Occupation

Sailor and later worked for Marconi

Census

3 April 1881 Wales

1881 Wales
Dwelling:	Church Street
Location:	Aberdovey, Merioneth
Source:	RG11 Piece 5478 Folio 50 Page 21

Surname	Forename	Relationship	Marriage	Age	Sex	Occupation	Birthplace
WILLIAMS	Elizabeth	Wife (head)	Married	42	F	Sailors Wife	Borth, Cardigan, Wales
WILLIAMS	Annie Elizabeth	Daughter	Unmarried	20	F	General Servant	Aberdovey, Merioneth, Wales
WILLIAMS	Mary	Daughter	Unmarried	18	F	Dressmaker	Aberdovey, Merioneth, Wales
WILLIAMS	Owen	Son		10	M	Scholar	Aberdovey, Merioneth, Wales
WILLIAMS	David John	Son		8	M	Scholar	Aberdovey, Merioneth, Wales
WILLIAMS	Susannah	Daughter		6	F	Scholar	Aberdovey, Merioneth, Wales
WILLIAMS	Jane Ellen	Daughter		4	F	Scholar	Aberdovey, Merioneth, Wales
WILLIAMS	Thomas Owen	Son		2	M		Aberdovey, Merioneth, Wales
WILLIAMS	John Davies	Son		2 m	M		Aberdovey, Merioneth, Wales

Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales

Source: Meriel and Ian Haynes

Source: Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales, Census, 1881 ‎(5478/50/21)‎

Citation Details: RG11 Piece 5478 Folio 50 Page 21
Quality of Data 3. Almost certain conclusion

Residence

5 April 1891 20 Church Street
Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales

Source: Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales, Census, 1891 ‎(4587/48/9)‎

Citation Details: RG12 Piece 4587 Folio 48 Page 9
Quality of Data 3. Almost certain conclusion

Census

5 April 1891 Wales

1891 Wales
Dwelling:	20 Church Street
Location:	Aberdovey, Merioneth
Source:	RG12 Piece 4587 Folio 48 Page 9

Surname	Forename	Relationship	Marriage	Age	Sex	Occupation	Birthplace
WILLIAMS	Owen	Head	Married	52	M	Trinity Pilot	Aberdovey, Merioneth
WILLIAMS	Jane	Wife	Married	39	F		Talybont Cardiganshire
WILLIAMS	Susannah	Daughter	Single	16	F		Aberdovey, Merioneth
WILLIAMS	John D	Son		10	M	Scholar	Aberdovey, Merioneth
WILLIAMS	Maggie	Daughter		2	F		Aberdovey, Merioneth

Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales

Source: Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales, Census, 1891 ‎(4587/48/9)‎

Citation Details: RG12 Piece 4587 Folio 48 Page 9
Quality of Data 3. Almost certain conclusion

Occupation

2 April 1911 General Labourer
Toxteth Park, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Source: Toxteth Park, Lancashire, England, Census, 1911 ‎(RG14/22279/379)‎

Citation Details: RG14/22279/379
Quality of Data 3. Almost certain conclusion

Residence

2 April 1911 40 Greenleaf Street
Toxteth Park, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Source: Toxteth Park, Lancashire, England, Census, 1911 ‎(RG14/22279/379)‎

Citation Details: RG14/22279/379
Quality of Data 3. Almost certain conclusion

Census

2 April 1911 England

1911 England

Dwelling:

40 Greenleaf Street

Location:

Toxteth Park, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Source:

RG14PN22279 RG78PN1317 RD454 SD4 ED1 SN379

Surname

Forename

Relationship

Age

Sex

Marriage

Completed

Born

Alive

Dead

Occupation

Industry

Status

Home

Birthplace

Incapacity

WILLIAMS

John Davies

Head

Married

General Labourer

Aberdovey, Merionethshire

WILLIAMS

Annie

Wife

Married

Pennal, Merionethshire

WILLIAMS

Eric Wynne

Son

Machynlleth, Montgomeryshire

ROWLANDS

Ann

Visitor

Widow

Charwoman

Towyn, Merionethshire

Toxteth Park, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Source: Toxteth Park, Lancashire, England, Census, 1911 ‎(RG14/22279/379)‎

Citation Details: RG14/22279/379
Quality of Data 3. Almost certain conclusion

Registration

between 1 April 1964 and 30 June 1964 Death
Merioneth S, Merionethshire, Wales

Source: Registration of Deaths

Citation Details: Jun 1964, Merioneths S, Merionethshire, Volume 8c, Page 22
Source Text: John D WILLIAMS, Age 83
Quality of Data 4. Convincing evidence

Death

12 June 1964
Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales

Burial

15 June 1964
Aberdovey Cemetery, Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales

Reference Number

00030

Last Change

8 July 2010

Census links

Years

1881 1891 1911

Media

Pictures

Nain & Taid	Queen of Cambria	Certificate of Discharge from Edward Windes	Discharge Book pages 3 and 4	Discharge Book pages 5 and 6
Discharge Book pages 7 and 8	Discharge Book pages 9 and 10	Letter from A R Lash	Atgofion am Hen Ffrind Johnny'r Corbett	Obituary
Rescue from the steamer Halton	Reference from Hughes and Hutson	Reference from Morris Davies, Master of Ann Warren	Reference from David Jones, Master of Mervinia	Reference from J Parry, Master of Gifford
Reference from Thomas Davies, Master of Pluvier	Reference from Daniel Morgan, Master of Sant Kevin	Reference from D. W. Morgan	Reference from Lewis and Co., Shipowners	Rescue from the Svenska
Aberdovey Pilot's Retirement	John Davies Williams Retires	Round the World - Twice	John Davies Williams (Taid)	John Davies Williams and his grandson David Williams
Nain and Taid Photo courtesy of Una Sanderson	Nain and Taid Photo courtesy of Una Sanderson	Memories of an old friend Translated from the original Welsh

Headstones

Headstone for Taid and Nain and 3 of their sons
Aberdyfi Cemetery.

Family with Annie Jones

Son

Eric Wynne Williams (I33)

Son

John Ivor Williams (I34)

Son

Owen Leslie Williams (I1) + Dorothy Ellis (I2)

Son

Richard Clifford Williams (I35)

Son

David Kenneth Williams (I36) + Marjorie Davies (I40)

Son

John Ronald Williams (I37) + Private

Son

Alan Eirwyn Williams (I38) + Dorothy Ruth Heinemann (I50) + Private

Child

Private

Individual Notes

General

Birth registration: Machynlleth, Mar 1881, Volume 11b, Page 158.

John Davies Williams was born in Church Street, Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales and his birth was recorded as No. 89 in the Register of Births No. 11 in Pennal (Machynlleth). His Birth Certificate states he was born on Fifth February 1881 at Church Street, Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales. His name is given as John Davies (Williams), his Father as Owen Williams and his mother as Elizabeth Williams formerly Davies. The Occupation of his father is given as Master Mariner and the Signature, description and residence of informant was Elizabeth Williams, Mother, Church Street, Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales. The Birth was registered on Twelfth March 1881.

From the 1881 Census (RG11, Piece 5478, Folio 50, Page 21), John Davies Williams (Taid), 2 months old, was living at Church Street (Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales). His father was not present (he was aboard the Olive Branch in Milford Haven) and the head of the family was his mother Elizabeth, 42, a Sailor's Wife. Also at the same address were his siblings Annie Elizabeth, 20, a General Servant, Mary, 18, a Dressmaker, Scholars Owen, 10, David John, 8, Susannah, 6, and Jane Ellen, 4, along with Thomas Owen, 2.

From the 1891 Census (RG12 Piece 4587 Folio 48 Page 9), John Davies (Taid), aged 10, was living with his father Owen, 52, a Trinity Pilot, and his step-mother Jane, 39, at 20 Church Street, Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales. With him were his sister Susannah, 16, and his half-sister Maggie, 2.

I have been unable to find Taid in the 1901 Census.

From the 1911 Census (RG14PN22279 RG78PN1317 RD454 SD4 ED1 SN379) John Davies, 30, General Labourer from Aberdovey, Merionethshire, was with his wife Annie, 24, from Pennal, Merionethshire, and son Eric Wynne, 2, born Machynlleth, Montgomeryshire, at 40 Greenleaf Street, Toxteth Park, Lancashire, England. Visiting the family was Ann Rowlands, widow, 45, Charwoman from Towyn, Merionethshire.

Taid is mentioned in the book 'A Real Little Seaport' by Lewis Lloyd (ISBN 1 874786 48 8) as serving as 'Boy' at a rate of £1 a month aboard the Schooner Sarah Davies. Some of the information given by Lewis Lloyd is not quite correct as he states that Taid joined the Sarah Davies at the age of 15 when in reality, according to his Discharge Book, he was a mere 13.

The following was written by my uncle A. Peris Williams:-

John Davies Williams

John Davies Williams was born at Penygraig, Church Street, Aberdyfi, in 1881 where his father, Owen Williams and his mother Elizabeth Williams lived. According to the census of 1881 the household consisted of Elizabeth Williams (42), Annie Elizabeth (20), Mary (18), Owen (10), David John (8), Susanah (6), Jane Ellen (4), Thomas Owen (2), and John Davies (2 months). His father, Owen Williams was not included in the census as he was in Milford Haven at the time on board the "Olive Branch".

Elizabeth Williams died on the 13th May 1882 when he was only 12 months old and is buried at Maethlon Cemetery in Happy Valley. Her grave is marked "Elizabeth, wife of Capt. Owen Williams, Olive Branch, and Aberdovey aged 43 years". (Many gravestones in seaside areas are marked with the name of the ship on which the deceased captained or served.)

Owen Williams remarried. He and his second wife, Jane, at sometime later, moved to live in 1 Bodfor Terrace, where Owen Williams died on the 14th October 1924, aged 86 years. This being one month before I was born. So I never knew my grandfather.

He and his second wife are buried together at Aberdyfi cemetery. The grave is situated two rows down and four graves to the left of our family grave.

My father's first employment was at a grocer's shop in Liverpool owne by a relative. However, he soon returned to Aberdyfi and sailed in his first boat at the age of 13 years. This was probably the Lady Alice, transporting coal, slate, timber and corn to various ports abroad.

He spent the next 15 years of his life sailing the seven seas. During which time he made two round the world trips. A list of ships in which he served is appended. This information is taken from hes discharge books, which are in my posession.

He completed his active seafaring in the employ of the Mersey Light Ships.

He married Annie Jones, my mother, at Toxteth Park, Liverpool on the 31st March 1908 and had eight sons. Eric Wynne (1908-1934), John Ivor (1909-1910), Owen Leslie (1911-2001), Richard Clifford (1912-1917), David Kenneth (1913-1978), John Ronald (1915-1965), Alan Eurwyn (1920-1991), Alun Peris (1924-). They also raised a niece, Susanah Jones, which we all regarded as our sister.

During the First World War he was employed as a foreman fitter in the building of the Marconi wireless Station at Tywtn where all his skills were required in building huge wireless masts. His rate of pay is recorded as 6 1/2d per hour. The 1/2d being the extra pay for being a foreman. This finally rose to 10 1/2d per hour. His service to the Marconi Wireless was recognised in 1962 by being made a Member of the Marconi Transoceanic Guild.

During the Second World War, together with his pilotage duties, he served with the National Fire Service and the local royal Oberserver Corps. I have in my possession a certificate acknowledging this service.

In 1936 he followed in his father's footsteps and was appointed the Trinity House Pilot for the river Dyfi. This position he held fo 15 years retiring in 1951.

My father, like all old sailors, could turn his hand to most things, and worked in painting and decorating and carpentry. mostly, however, he worked with the elements he wasmmost happy with, which was rope and tackle and all things with a seafaring connotation. He used to sit for hours on end plaiting old rope into doormats with intricate designs. He carved wooden spoons not only for everyday use but also in competitions for local eisteddfods. For each of his sons he, carved model sailing ships.

He was expert at repairing clinker built or carvel boats that had been damaged in storms etc. Many were the time that he waited for me to come home from school to hold the hammer for him whilst he clenched rivets to the planks that were being replaced.

He suffered from Pageats Disease for many years and died peacfully at his home in 10, The Hall, Aberdyfi in 1964. He was buried in the cemetery at Aberdyfi where two of his sons had previously been interred.

A. Peris Williams

Vessels In which John Davies Williams sailed - compiled from his Discharge Book by Alun Peris Williams:-

1) Sarah Davies. (Schooner) 1894. Aged 13 years.
2) Ann Warran (Aberystwyth) 6/11/1896 to 20/7/1897
3) Mervinia (Aberystwyth) 8/1897 to 1/1898
4) Gifford (Barque) 2/1898 to 2/5/1899 Liverpool to Sydney, San Francisco, Tacoma, Cardiff
5) Edward Windes. (Portmadoc) 26/7/1900 to 13/11/1900 Tacoma to Cardiff
6) Bernard Hall 24/11/1900 to 4/2/1901 Liverpool, W. Indies, U.S.A.
7) Queen of Cambria 4/3/1901 to 11/6/1902 Caernarvon, Dunkirk, Australia.
8) Lizzie (First Steamship) 8/1/1903 Cardiff to Pembrey
9) Barbadian 19/2/1903 to 19/5/1903 West Indies
10) Sant Kevin (S.S) (Newcastle) 14/6/1903
11) Lizzie 30/10/1905 to 22/12/1905 Liverpool
12) Pluvier (Schooner) to 21/11/1906
13) Canadian 31/10/1908 to 29/11/1908 Liverpool to Boston.
14) Canadian 5/12/1908 to 4/1/1909 Liverpool to Boston
15) Canadian 9/1/1909 to 7/2/1909 Liverpool to Boston

Note..... 4) and 9) were Round the World trips. One of the earliest trips was in the Barque Charlotte Young but I have no information as to dates nor destination. Single dates are discharge dates taken from his Discharge Book

A.P.W.

Thank you, Peris, for your notes.

I have been trying to track down Taid (John Davies Williams) in the 1901 Census, so far without any luck. He was aboard the Queen of Cambria at the time of the census.

The Queen of Cambria Caernarfon (not to be confused with the Cambrian Queen) (O.N. 74867) was a three masted iron barque (865 tons) built in 1876 by Osbourne Graham and Company, Hylton, Sunderland. She was 194.2' long by 32.8' broad by 20.2' deep and owned by Robert Jones, Plas Tirion, Pwllheli in 1876 and then William Thomas and Son, Nefyn. She was bought by Robert Thomas of Criccieth and Liverpool in 1896.

The Queen of Cambria arrived in Dunedin, Australia on 10 Feb 1883 and is reported to have arrived in Port Chalmers, New Zealand on the same day after sailing from Deal on a 90 day voyage. The ship's Master at that time was a Captain M Parry.

Captain Griffith Jones of Nefyn was A.B. aboard the ship between 18 Aug 1888 and 12 Jul 1889. John Davies Williams (Taid) was aboard the Queen of Cambria between 4 Mar 1901 to 11 Jun 1902 while she sailed from Caernarvon to Dunkirk and Australia.

The vessel was wrecked on 26 May 1906, at Lobos de Tierra on passage from Lobos to Antwerp with guano. The Times, Saturday, Dec 29, 1906; pg. 4; Issue 36338; col E Wrecks, Casualties &c. Falmouth, Dec. 27 - Barque Queen of Cambria from Tocopilia (nitrate) entering port in tow, parted cable and fell across bows of Barque Crown of India, from San Francisco, damaging her bead. Queen of Cambria is cut down to water's edge, and has been beached.

Couple Notes (Annie Jones)
Name: WILLIAMS, John Davies; Record type: Marriages: Quarter: March; Year: 1908; District: Toxteth Park; County: Lancashire; Volume: 8b; Page: 264. Name: JONES Annie; Record type: Marriages: Quarter: March; Year: 1908; District: Toxteth Park; County: Lancashire; Volume: 8b; Page: 264. The Marriage Certificate indicates the pair were married on 31 March 1908 at the Register Office, Toxteth Park, Liverpool in the presence of Edward A Townsing and Winifred Jones. John Davies WILLIAMS was a bachelor of 27 years, a Seaman in the Merchant Service, living at 68 Granby Street, Toxteth Park and the son of Owen Williams, Master Mariner. Annie JONES was a spinster of 21 years, a Housemaid ‎(Domestic Service)‎, living at 2 Sefton Drive, Toxteth Park, daughter of Richard Jones, Farmer.